Republican vice-presidential candidate JD Vance claimed that middle- and upper-middle-class children were transitioning genders to get into Ivy League schools, asserted that women are “celebrating” abortions, and said Democrats want Americans to be unhealthy for political purposes.
In a three-hour interview with popular podcaster Joe Rogan that was released Thursday, the senator from Ohio drifted from many conservative talking points to personal stories about his life. He also talked extensively about his concerns about “gender craziness,” echoing the anti-trans rhetoric that has become a defining closing message for the Trump-Vance campaign. Vance claimed that middle-class or upper-middle-class White parents know that their children are more likely to get into Ivy League schools if they are transgender.
“Look at where the gender craziness is the most common: It’s most common among upper-middle-class to lower-middle-class white progressives,” Vance said. “This is a cultural trend that we should be questioning a lot more than we are right now.”
Studies have shown that transgender students suffer from harassment and lack of financial support that makes it difficult for them to complete higher education.
Vance said he believes the Republican ticket may win “the normal gay guy vote because they just want to be left the hell alone” by “crazy” parts of the LGBTQ+ movement.
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Vance doubled down on many of the conservative talking points as he sought to appeal to the young men who are faithful listeners of Rogan’s show. Trump also sat down with Rogan for a three-hour interview last Friday.
Vance said in the interview that Democrats want Americans to be unhealthy so that they will lean left and pointed to studies showing a correlation between testosterone levels and conservative-leaning young men.
Asked what research Vance was referring to, the campaign did not respond.
On abortion, Vance repeated that he and Trump would not impose a national abortion ban while also claiming that women are “celebrating” access to the medical procedure. Vance cited instances on social media of women “backing birthday cases and posting about it.”
Rogan responded that he thought “there’s very few people that are celebrating.”
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Vance said that while he doesn’t like the idea of women getting arrested under states’ abortion bans, he doesn’t know of such cases occurring. There have been several high-profile cases, including one recently surfaced instance when a woman who told authorities she had a miscarriage was arrested under her state’s abortion ban.
Vance also said he did not get vaccinated against the coronavirus after his first shot because he was symptomatic after receiving the dose, which is common with vaccines.
“The moment where I really started to get red-pilled on the whole vax thing was the sickest that I have been in the last 15 years by far was when I took the vaccine,” he said.
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Speaking about his initial reaction to the July assassination attempt on Donald Trump, Vance described how he had initially thought the former president died, so he rushed home to stand guard with his guns.
Vance, who has said he did not know he would become Trump’s running mate until days later, told Rogan that he was in Cincinnati at a mini golf course with his children when he found out about the news. He said he drove his kids home, collected his guns and stood outside “basically like a sentry.”
“I go into fight-or-flight mode,” Vance said.
He talked about cooking for his wife who is vegetarian and how he realized his life was altered when he saw Secret Service agents outside his window as he watched the Netflix series “Emily in Paris,” which he said was “stupid” before correcting himself and calling it “a masterpiece.”